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"You cannot worry about someone and love them at the same time. Most people mistake the emotion of worry for the emotion of love. They think that worrying about somebody means that you love them."

--- Abraham

I am really thinking about this. Is it true? Yes? No? I can't tell yet.

Pondering.

Date: 2012-02-22 03:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rio-luna.livejournal.com
hmmm. this challenges me.

Date: 2012-02-22 03:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sabrinamari.livejournal.com
Hmmmm, what does it mean that two Latin chicks, who have been culturally indoctrinated to care for and tend to their beloveds---and worry worry worry about them---are both sitting here saying, "is this really true????"

Date: 2012-02-22 04:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rio-luna.livejournal.com
i know. aaron has such a low tolerance for this, that i've traine dmyself to just send him IMs that say

clucking at you

Date: 2012-02-22 05:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sabrinamari.livejournal.com
laughing...

Today I made Michael a quesadilla when he got home from his yoga class so he would have calories as soon as he walked in, but I used the last wrap in the fridge.

He has planned to use it to make a yummy lunch, and he felt frustrated at me about it. I know it's also because he is being brave and doing scary work-related things today.

But I need, NEED to take care of him and the people I love, and it is sadly sad when that annoys them.

Or maybe I just need to grow beyond my cultural conditioning. It's thought.

My mom used to tell me to marry a white boy because they were so appreciative of being treated this way by a Latin girl, but wouldn't become too overbearing, bossy or mean.

"Stay away from Latin boys and Arabs," she said, in her charmingly ethnocentric way. "You will never have any freedom and they will always be telling you what to do. But white boys, they are appreciative and will let you do what you want to do."

Sometimes, though, white boys get annoyed at the fussing. : (

Date: 2012-02-23 07:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sabrinamari.livejournal.com
laughing quietly at "clucking at you"!

Date: 2012-02-22 05:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] onyxtwilight.livejournal.com
I'm not sure I'm buying that one.

I agree with the general idea, in limited circumstances: it's true if you're trying to affect an outcome through magic or prayer. Worrying is very ineffective protection magic, generations of Jewish mothers to the contrary. And it's worse than awful for healing, it just reinforces what's wrong. If you want to do anything like that, you have to set the worry aside so that you can focus on what you're doing.

But unless we're drawing some sort of semantic line between "worry" and "concern," I don't think it's reasonable (or even possible) to remain blithely unconcerned if you know there's a reason to be concerned -- like, for example, if someone has gone somewhere dangerous, or gotten hurt.

Living in joy is great, but everything in life isn't joyful. Sitting with concern, moving through it, sometimes keeping vigil with it, is how we get back to joy.

Date: 2012-02-23 07:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sabrinamari.livejournal.com
Sitting with concern is certainly a legitimate and potentially useful response.

Date: 2012-02-22 11:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evcelt.livejournal.com
That is way too binary for me. And makes me think of my second-favorite Morgan's Tarot card:

http://www.sleepbot.com/morgan/card/illegit.html

The problem is when you let the worry form your intent more than the love.

Who is this "Abraham", anyway? Not the one we both know, methinks...

Date: 2012-02-23 07:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sabrinamari.livejournal.com
THAT is an AWESOME Tarot card and interpretation!

Date: 2012-02-23 11:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evcelt.livejournal.com
I love that deck.

Who is Abraham?

Date: 2012-02-23 05:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hypanebliss.livejournal.com
Worry or concern? :) Perhaps his message is the ultimate in "if you love someone, set them free." We trust that the people we love are doing what they need to do. In turn, I should be focused on my own ass. Although sometimes I find magnetized to following other pretty asses. For empirical study of course.

Date: 2012-02-23 07:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sabrinamari.livejournal.com
"We trust that the people we love are doing what they need to do."

This feels like a good direction to me.

Date: 2012-02-23 05:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zammis.livejournal.com
this makes sense to me energetically- not as a must-do, but a goal to reach for.

I prefer this phrase: "Worrying is using your imagination to create things you DO NO WANT"- also from Abraham.

Oh, and evcelt, Abraham is the name of the entity/entities channeled by Esther Hicks. Law of Attraction stuff. :)

Date: 2012-02-23 07:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sabrinamari.livejournal.com
Perhaps this what he was gesturing towards...

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